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I don’t know how to do it, but the platform space I feel like all the accounts are getting more expensive. Um you know, I saw My Funded Futures just come out with another plan. And what they did to make it quote-unquote cheaper is they lowered the drawdown. So, they So, My Funded Futures just rolled out the Builder plan, right? And what they did to make it cheaper cuz if you look uh
you know they had the $73 core plans. Lucid plans were seventy-something dollars. Uh who else had all in $70? You know, in the ’70s. Uh you know maybe Trade The — Who uh Well, who did you have? Uh Trade The was close when they were doing like before they raised their prices and were doing 40% off. I think you could get 50K intradays for like 59 bucks or 65 bucks. — Yeah,
they had I think Trade The had like — daily payouts, no activation fee, insane. Yeah, they had uh Trade The had like a 25K account that was cheap. Um they had all these entry-levels, and then now if you look like Lucid’s raised their prices. My Funded Futures raised their prices. Uh Trade The has raised their prices. Uh you know, everyone’s raising prices, so the what My Funded Futures did
with the the Builder plan is they give you the plan it’s a $92 plan with the 2,000 end of day, but if you want to do end of day only 1,500 they reduced the price to like $73 Maybe it’s like $73. And that’s how they are giving you a plan that’s cheaper all in. But, also the odds of you passing it are lower because it’s $500 less of end of day drawdown.
I mean, it’s doable. Although, I blew mine on some dumb trade, but that’s besides the point. Yeah. — Actually, no, I shouldn’t have it. I don’t have Oh, there’s also a daily loss limit. The thing about it, though, it’s only right now, I think what is it? It’s 92 for the 2,000 drawdown and and 75 with a code, though. So, what’s going to happen when the sale is over
and they’re they’re 125 bucks? Then, it’s not even not even a good plan. No, because if you compare it to like Take Profit Trader to Take Profit Trader is so much better or Lucid Plan. Yeah. — Well, it depends on what your priorities are. If you want to get paid in as little as 2 days, then that’s the one you could get paid in as little as 2 days with. — I
think the Lucid Pro Plan is like that. The I don’t trade pro plans, to be honest with you. I’m a flex guy. Yeah, Lucid Pro Plan It’s not 2 days. — going to be like It’s 130, but I think it goes down another notch to like 110-ish. And theirs is the payouts are fast. Their end of their uh loss limit is $2,000. So, I think it’s like a pro plan My Funded
Futures that build their plan at 2,000 is similar to the pro plans when they’re not running that deal. Someone Someone said uh I don’t know. I saw it on the on the internet that it was very similar to some funding family member futures plan or whatever that crap firm is called. Bro, Oh, Funded Futures family. — dipping my toe into that one. That’s for sure. Um
yeah, I don’t I like Funded Futures family’s cousin. I don’t I don’t play with that firm. Even the one I want I would try to do Funded Futures Network. That didn’t work for me. They didn’t have trade of eight and the connection on rhythmic kept dropping. Um So I bounced from there. I you know, I like just sticking with firm the main firms I know I’m getting paid with to be honest
with you. I’m not uh I’m not just going to mess around with randoms. With uh with the garage to pop firms. One I I’d like to know I’m getting paid. Unless they’re running some crazy deal where it’s like all in for 50k for like $55. Or like you know, something with an activation fee but it’s like 90% off or it’s buy one get one free. Like You won’t see me use any
of the lower tier firms. You know. — I haven’t traded with Yeah, I mean I haven’t even been trading with My Funded Futures all that much until they did uh a pogo deal which was pass one get one free. Yeah, makes sense. — on the rapid plans because the rapid plans you could get paid every day. Yeah. Certain criteria. No, I I agree with you. Um They typically don’t
run crazy deals either. So like a pass one get one is pretty good. Um Yeah, I mean I’m trying to think. Some of these firms never run one. Like Take Profit Trader never runs a deal. Trade — they’re they are running a deal. It’s 40% off with no activation fee but that is like basically their pricing. That’s basically their pricing. They’ve been running the deal for a while and like I get
it. That’s the the deal but that’s also it’s They’ve been running it so long that if they took that deal away people would stop buying. Yeah. Look what happened. I noticed it, you know, obviously cuz I’m an affiliate at Trade Day. They were running 40% off and no activation for a while. And once they went they not only did they raise the prices a little bit, maybe like every other prop firm’s
doing. They’re all raising their prices except for Take Profit Trader. But that’s besides the point and like Bollox. But they raised their prices and then they lowered their discount from 40% to 30%. Yeah, that’s not good. And I noticed a very drastic reduction in how many people are buying accounts. — Yeah, I mean people get super price sensitive when you’re buying accounts that are around $100, 100, 110. Like that’s those are
expensive accounts, man. Like that’s not going from like like Apex went from like 19 to 34 for the 90% off on the trailing. Um you know, like that’s $5. But I I do know people were like the activation fee went from $79 to 99 bucks and that kind of hit people. Um Uh but everyone’s raising prices. You know, Apex raised their prices, Lucid, My Funded Futures, like you said, Trade Day, like
you know, that’s that’s the path. I think a lot of people got hosed on gold and silver. Um you know, and and they’re kind of raising their prices to make their money and but also like if you’re a prop firm and you see these two firms raise their prices, you’re like, well, I I mean, I can raise my prices also. You know? And then you know, everyone raises their prices. But then
all of a sudden what’s going to happen is one of the firms is going to run a crazy deal and then, you know, the other firms are going to follow suit on a deal. I feel like it’s all in waves because they have a certain amount of people they want to onboard every week, and if they’re not hitting those numbers, they look why, and then if it’s because other people are running
deals, then they run deals. And that’s how it goes. Depends on how many people are onboarding, and that’s it. Cuz they need to keep you know, they need to have a lot of people, because if you don’t have a lot of people, and somebody hits you hard for a lot of money, you’re kind of done. And that that’s why I think Apex moved away from the 20 accounts, unlimited payouts. You know,
it didn’t happen a lot, but when somebody came in and hit them for 500, $600,000, you know, that’s a big amount of money, man. You know? — Also, now they seem to be doing something where if you go on a little bit of a heater, you will get graduated to live. You know, even and then there’s people that have I’m seeing that have only gotten one or two payouts. I don’t know
what the amount was. They could have gotten max payouts across 10, 20 accounts. They’re telling them that they have to go live. I I mean, I saw that big sweep on Twitter. It was or on X, all these people going live. Yeah. — Yeah. They’re not the only ones. There’s other firms that are pushing people live sooner, but I got it. I got it on Fidelis. They pushed me live early. Yeah.
I got it on Apex. You know, um A lot of people who have been trading longer and are probably more profitable than me, who have channels and all that and are affiliates just like me, It it kind of sucks though. Like, I don’t know about like your story, but my story like, I was going to get paid uh $6,000 in like 3 days from Fidelis, instead of paying me, they pushed me
live. Like, it to me, when I got pushed live, felt like they were looking to save money. D- Man, they all are. I they I get it. They all are. Cuz you got to remember, guys, like Yeah. They’re running a business. Like, if you think that you’re their friend, it’s not. They’re running a business and they are giving you an opportunity. Because listen, if you only had a hundred bucks, you wouldn’t
be able to trade the this amount of you wouldn’t be able to trade like this. So they’re providing you a service. You’re paying for the service and they’re running a business. It’s that’s what it is. It’s not anything else. It’s a business transaction. And what they what you want to do is you want to graduate to live, then they give you the money to the live account, and then it’s basically like,
you know, you can go do whatever you want. It’s but it’s a business. Yeah. If you know, if you get the account. Like it the whole thing with prop firms is just know that it’s their world and we’re just living in it. The only thing you can do, the only control you have, is who you give your money to. That’s it. And make good trades. Yeah. And and and and win the
game. It’s a game. Play the game to win. Know that at some point some firm might not want you to trade with them anymore because you’ve gone over your when they don’t want you to trade anymore. They they don’t have a live program, so they don’t have anything to do with you. Like once you’re if you’re making too much money in the sim accounts and they can’t push you
to live, they’re not going to keep losing money on you. So that’s why they ban you. But if they have a live program, — especially if you’re not a simfluencer, you know. Yeah, you know. You know. — then what’s my reason, right? Still waiting. You know what I mean? — Yeah, well, I mean I you went on a crazy heater. I I could tell you that right now what happened. — Yeah,
I did. I I did. I’m proud of that. And then someone was — grand and only give the firm five and expect — I would a little more than that, but it was yeah, I gave him more. I would want you off my books. Dude, and someone was actually suggesting in the chat when I was streaming talking to with you know, cuz people keep asking me what’s going on with it. Any
update? Any update? I’m like I have no I I don’t know. I don’t have an update. As soon as I will, I’ll let you know, yada yada yada, but someone was like, “Maybe you should have Maybe you should have not made that much money that quick.” I’m like, “What am I supposed to do? Make less money?” Who would want to do that though? — much money as possible. You know? Yeah, I
would never I would never try to not make money though, man. Like that’s — Yeah, I you know, I’ve went on a absolute heater. Not just with Apex, it was with everybody I was trading with. Yeah, I I And you know what? Yo, it’s paid for my new kitchen. Listen. The The obviously the goal is you know, in theory, is to go live. The problem is
you want to have more you want to keep multiple accounts when you go live, right? Now, I’ve seen zero documentation about Apex’s live, so I I don’t know what they’re going to do, but like when you talk about Take Profit Trader, when they send you live, you keep the five accounts, which is awesome. You know, like Lucid, I think you do three accounts live. Like if you can keep multiple accounts, that’s
what I like, cuz you can kind of spread the risk among the accounts, right? Um what I don’t like is when they Like I I don’t think My Funded Futures does it anymore, but what they used to do is like say that you go live and you had three accounts, now they only give you one. And it’s like you know, I’d rather trade one mini in three accounts than have to trade
three minis in one account, right? So, that’s that’s where I’m at, personally. You know what I mean? Yeah, it’s tough. It’s tough.
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